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What do you think lead up to the incident that occurred on May 4th?
It really escalated, I think on Thursday night, which would have been the 30th of April when President Nixon announced that they had bombed Cambodia and while Nixon was talking about de-escalating the war and you had an anti-war movement to begin with. When he announced publicly that he was bombing Cambodia, everybody viewed that as an escalation of the war and people were seeing greater involvement of the country in a war that, I think everybody had a difficult time explaining why we were in it. A lot of the students were on campus to get their II-S Deferment so they wouldn’t get drafted and all of a sudden they feel like they’re escalating the war. That, I think, hit the mood of the country all the way across the board.
There was a group of people that were asking for rally on Monday at noon. Monday would have been May 4th, and the university was saying, “You can’t have a rally.” This is another event where students were like, “Oh yeah? I’m going to go there to see what’s going on. Why can’t I have a rally?” So we went to class, most of the kids went to class in the morning, and then around noon, as classes started to be let out for lunch and that kind of thing, people started to migrate to the commons to see what was going to happen. The university was saying, “you can’t have a rally,” and the kids were saying, “well, why not?”
With the events that took place in downtown on Friday night and the burning of the ROTC building on Saturday, on Sunday the governor showed up and made some real inflammatory statements, characterizing the students of Kent as “Brown Shirts,” which was a pick up from Vice President Agnew, which tells you the class of people you were dealing with. You had all these instances, the curfew, so people wanted to speak out. “We don’t like the war. We don’t like an expansion of the war when you’re telling us you’re going to de-escalate it. We don’t like the troops on campus. They were kind of indifferent to the ROTC but the ROTC building was an eyesore so we don’t like that either.” So we showed up to do that, and when I say “we” I was there too. I took my camera out. I stayed on the outskirts of it and just took pictures of the protest.
Object Description
| Profile of | Bryan Shaul |
| Title | Kent State Massacre: The Day the War Came Home |
| Profile bio | Bryan Shaul was born in Northampton, Massachusetts and grew up in a small farming community southwest of Mansfield, Ohio. He attended Northwestern University as a journalism major, but lost focus and dropped out in his second year. When he returned home, he supported himself by booking local rock bands with one of his high school friends. With the Vietnam War ramping up it was not a good time to be male, single and self-employed. Bryan decided to return to college joining many kindred spirits seeking to get a II-S draft deferment. With some experience running his own business, Bryan decided to major in accounting. Bryan chose Kent State University because, at that time, Kent had a respectable accounting program. This time Bryan would have to pay the bills for his education. He was able to convince the administration at Kent State administration that he could attend undergraduate school while functioning as a grad counselor in one of the dorms. Grad counselors received free room and board and a private suite. Bryan received his undergraduate degree a year after the shootings. Recently, Bryan retired and now divides his time between a cabin on the lake in Cascade, Idaho and a condo on Main Street in Huntington Beach |
| Profiler bio | Adan Macias is a senior from Los Angeles, CA majoring in architecture. Riley Mathies is a junior from Newport Beach, CA majoring in communication, minoring in entrepreneurship. Matthew Parvizyar is a senior from Los Angeles, CA majoring in real estate (PPD). Murphy Sharma is a sophomore from Fort worth, TX majoring in chemistry (pre-med). |
| Subject |
antiwar free speech movement SDS Vietnam Vietnam war Kent State National Guard Protest campus shooting |
| Profiled by | Macias, Adan; Mathies, Riley; Parvizyar, Matthew; Sharma, Murphy |
| Profile date | 2014-03-14 |
| Geographic subject (city or populated place) | Northampton; Mansfield; Cascade; Huntington Beach |
| Geographic subject (county) | Hampshire; Richland; Valley; Orange |
| Geographic subject (state) | Massachusetts; Ohio; Idaho; California |
| Geographic subject (country) | USA; Cambodia |
| Coverage date | 1970 |
| Publisher (of the original version) | http://anotherwarmemorial.com/bryan-shaul/ |
| Type |
images video |
| Format | 1 image; 5 video files (00:20:33); 5 transcripts |
| Language | English |
| Contributing entity | University of Southern California |
| Part of collection | An Other War Memorial -- Memories of the American War in Viet Nam |
| Filename | shaulbryan |
Description
| Profile of | Bryan Shaul |
| Title | What do you think lead up to the incident that occurred on May 4th? |
| Format | 1 transcript, 1p. |
| Filename | shaulbryan-vid2_tr2.pdf |
| Full text | What do you think lead up to the incident that occurred on May 4th? It really escalated, I think on Thursday night, which would have been the 30th of April when President Nixon announced that they had bombed Cambodia and while Nixon was talking about de-escalating the war and you had an anti-war movement to begin with. When he announced publicly that he was bombing Cambodia, everybody viewed that as an escalation of the war and people were seeing greater involvement of the country in a war that, I think everybody had a difficult time explaining why we were in it. A lot of the students were on campus to get their II-S Deferment so they wouldn’t get drafted and all of a sudden they feel like they’re escalating the war. That, I think, hit the mood of the country all the way across the board. There was a group of people that were asking for rally on Monday at noon. Monday would have been May 4th, and the university was saying, “You can’t have a rally.” This is another event where students were like, “Oh yeah? I’m going to go there to see what’s going on. Why can’t I have a rally?” So we went to class, most of the kids went to class in the morning, and then around noon, as classes started to be let out for lunch and that kind of thing, people started to migrate to the commons to see what was going to happen. The university was saying, “you can’t have a rally,” and the kids were saying, “well, why not?” With the events that took place in downtown on Friday night and the burning of the ROTC building on Saturday, on Sunday the governor showed up and made some real inflammatory statements, characterizing the students of Kent as “Brown Shirts,” which was a pick up from Vice President Agnew, which tells you the class of people you were dealing with. You had all these instances, the curfew, so people wanted to speak out. “We don’t like the war. We don’t like an expansion of the war when you’re telling us you’re going to de-escalate it. We don’t like the troops on campus. They were kind of indifferent to the ROTC but the ROTC building was an eyesore so we don’t like that either.” So we showed up to do that, and when I say “we” I was there too. I took my camera out. I stayed on the outskirts of it and just took pictures of the protest. |
| Archival file | Volume4/shaulbryan-vid2_tr2.pdf |
