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PERSONNEL COMPLAINT, LA. NO. 86-600
Page 169
Pellegrino weare only engaged in horseplay. Nuckles stated that
after Pellegrino had held Ramirez down on the table for a short
time, Ramirez expressed a desire to get up and attempted to do so
but Pellegrino still held him down. At that point, Nuckles
thought the incident was on the verge of getting out of hand and
told Pellegrino and Ramirez to "knock it off" or words to that
effect and walked over to their location. As Nuckles arrived at
their location, Pellegrino backed off letting go of Ramirez and
Ramirez got up off the table. The entire incident lasted ten to.
fifteen seconds.
Nuckles stated that after Ramirez got up, he appeared upset about
the incident and his watch being broken. Pellegrino was quiet
and sat at his table as did Ramirez after looking around the
office for a part that came off his watch. Ramirez remained in
the office for ten to fifteen minutes afterwards and then went
end-of-watch. Nuckles stated that aside from a small cut to one
of Pellegrino's finger, he did not see any evidence of injury to
Ramirez or Pellegrino and neither ever complained of any to him.
He did not observe Ramirez or Pellegrino punch, slap or kick
during the incident, nor did he recall any threats of harm made
by either Ramirez or Pellegrino. Nuckles specifically could not
recall Pellegrino stating, "I'll beat the shit out of you, you
little fucking Mexican. I'll kill you". If it was said, it was
done kiddingly as all the comments were during the incident.
Nuckles stated he would not characterize the incident as an
altercation; it was just "horseplay". Nuckles"did not see
anything about the incident as misconduct because it just
appeared to be office "skylarking".
Nuckles stated the he understood that Pellegrino called
Lieutenant Hall about the incident later in the evening but
Nuckles did not overhear the conversation and did not know how
Pellegrino characterized it to Lieutenant Hall. However, the day
after the incident, Nuckles discussed it with Lieutenant Hall and
told him Ramirez and Pellegrino had just been involved in
horseplay that almost got out of hand but it had been stopped
before it did. He further told Hall that Pellegrino had
telephoned Ramirez at home and apologized to him and Ramirez
accepted the apology and they considered the incident over and
done with. Nuckles could not recall if he gave Hall any further
details of the incident. This, Ramirez receiving the phone call
from Pellegrino, had been related to Nuckles in a telephone
conversation he had with Ramirez at around 1900 hours the day of.
the incident. Nuckles could not recall any other details of the
phone conversation he had with Ramirez except for some possible
conversation about a spring being missing from Ramirez' watch.
Nuckles stated that he did not counsel Ramirez or Pellegrino and
was not aware of anyone else doing so, nor did he or anyone else
document the incident. Nuckles denied the allegation that he
failed to take appropriate action after becoming aware that two
Object Description
| Title | Correspondence: complaints against LAPD (1 of 2), [after 1989-09] |
| Description | Operations Headquarters Bureau, Los Angeles Police Department (Stephen C. Coker and Marty Cotwright), memorandum, to Detective Services Group, Los Angeles Police Department (J. Bova), re I.A. no. 86-600: Department complaint alleging unbecoming conduct against Detective III Elmer Pellegrino (serial no. 12470), Detective III Wallace Montgomery (serial no. 16136), Detective III Carlos Ramirez (serial no. 13427), Lieutenant II Charles Massey (serial no. 11880), and an unknown officder, Robbery Homicide Division (RHD); Department complaint alleging unbecoming conduct and neglect of duty against Lieutenant II William Hall (serial no. 13726, RHD. PART OF A SERIES: Materials in the series fall into one of several categories related to the Independent Commission's work product: (1) Commission meeting materials, which include meeting agendas, work plans, memoranda, and articles about police misconduct that were circulated and reviewed during the Commission's internal meetings; (2) public correspondence, which includes citizen complaints against the LAPD in the form of written testimony, articles, and an audio cassette tape, as well as letters drafted by citizens in support of the LAPD; (3) summaries of interviews held with LAPD officers regarding Departmental procedures and relations; (4) public meeting materials, which include transcripts, supplementary documents, and witness statements that were reviewed at the Commission's public meetings; (5) press releases related to the formation and work product of the Commission; and (6) miscellaneous materials reviewed by the Commission during its study, including LAPD personnel and training manuals, a memorandum of understanding, and messages from the LAPD's Mobile Digital Terminal (MDT) system. |
| Coverage date | 1981-03/1989-08-16 |
| Creator |
Coker, C. Cotwright, Marty Los Angeles Police Department. Operations Headquarters Bureau |
| Contributor |
Bova, J., recipient Los Angeles Police Department. Detective Services Group, recipient |
| Publisher (of the digital version) | University of Southern California |
| Date created | [after 1989-09] |
| Type | texts |
| Format | 241 p. |
| Format (aat) | memorandums |
| Format (imt) | application/pdf |
| Language | English |
| Contributing entity | University of Southern California |
| Part of collection | Independent Commission on the Los Angeles Police Department, 1991 |
| Series | Independent Commission File List |
| File | Complaints, suggestions, and support |
| Box and folder | box 23, folder 5 |
| Provenance | The collection was given to the University of Southern California on July 31, 1991. |
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| Title | Correspondence: complaints against LAPD (1 of 2), [after 1989-09], p. 166 |
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| Physical access | Contact: Special Collections, Doheny Memorial Library, Libraries, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189; specol@dots.usc.edu |
| Full text | PERSONNEL COMPLAINT, LA. NO. 86-600 Page 169 Pellegrino weare only engaged in horseplay. Nuckles stated that after Pellegrino had held Ramirez down on the table for a short time, Ramirez expressed a desire to get up and attempted to do so but Pellegrino still held him down. At that point, Nuckles thought the incident was on the verge of getting out of hand and told Pellegrino and Ramirez to "knock it off" or words to that effect and walked over to their location. As Nuckles arrived at their location, Pellegrino backed off letting go of Ramirez and Ramirez got up off the table. The entire incident lasted ten to. fifteen seconds. Nuckles stated that after Ramirez got up, he appeared upset about the incident and his watch being broken. Pellegrino was quiet and sat at his table as did Ramirez after looking around the office for a part that came off his watch. Ramirez remained in the office for ten to fifteen minutes afterwards and then went end-of-watch. Nuckles stated that aside from a small cut to one of Pellegrino's finger, he did not see any evidence of injury to Ramirez or Pellegrino and neither ever complained of any to him. He did not observe Ramirez or Pellegrino punch, slap or kick during the incident, nor did he recall any threats of harm made by either Ramirez or Pellegrino. Nuckles specifically could not recall Pellegrino stating, "I'll beat the shit out of you, you little fucking Mexican. I'll kill you". If it was said, it was done kiddingly as all the comments were during the incident. Nuckles stated he would not characterize the incident as an altercation; it was just "horseplay". Nuckles"did not see anything about the incident as misconduct because it just appeared to be office "skylarking". Nuckles stated the he understood that Pellegrino called Lieutenant Hall about the incident later in the evening but Nuckles did not overhear the conversation and did not know how Pellegrino characterized it to Lieutenant Hall. However, the day after the incident, Nuckles discussed it with Lieutenant Hall and told him Ramirez and Pellegrino had just been involved in horseplay that almost got out of hand but it had been stopped before it did. He further told Hall that Pellegrino had telephoned Ramirez at home and apologized to him and Ramirez accepted the apology and they considered the incident over and done with. Nuckles could not recall if he gave Hall any further details of the incident. This, Ramirez receiving the phone call from Pellegrino, had been related to Nuckles in a telephone conversation he had with Ramirez at around 1900 hours the day of. the incident. Nuckles could not recall any other details of the phone conversation he had with Ramirez except for some possible conversation about a spring being missing from Ramirez' watch. Nuckles stated that he did not counsel Ramirez or Pellegrino and was not aware of anyone else doing so, nor did he or anyone else document the incident. Nuckles denied the allegation that he failed to take appropriate action after becoming aware that two |
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