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PERSONNEL COMPLAINT, I.A. No. 86-600
Page 114
Lieutenant Hall said that at no time during January 1989, or at
any other time did he hear Tortorici say to Ramirez "Hey greaser,
there's only one good thing about the schedule. I don't have any
weekends assigned with you. That's good because I don't have to
work with you, greaseball." He said he has never referred to
Ramirez nor has anyone else in the office referred to him as a
"greaser" or "greaseball." He has never heard Pellegrino refer
to Hearing Reporter Diethrich as a "dumb Mexican broad." Hall
denied ever hearing Pellegrino make the statement "if it was up
to me I would fire the bitch" while referring to Diethrich.
Hall stated that on or about February 7, 1989, while at the scene
of an O.I.S. at 10325 Oso Avenue in Devonshire Area, he recalled
seeing a measure meter on the hood of a black and white police
vehicle. Ramirez left to go conduct interviews of firefighters
who had been at the scene and that a couple of days later Ramirez
asked him if he had seen his measure meter. He told Ramirez to
check with his partners. Ramirez said he had already checked
with his partners and they had said that he (Hall) had the meter.
He told Ramirez to phone Devonshire Division to ascertain if any
patrol officers may have had the measure meter. After that he
heard nothing else regarding the measure meter, and.assumed it
had turned up. He was not aware that Ramirez had ordered another
one until he read about it in Ramirez' grievance supplemental.
On two occasions Ramirez asked to check the trunk of his (Hall)
vehicle and in fact did check the trunk. Ramirez also check the
trunks of the vehicles that Pellegrino and Greg Hall were driving
at the time. He (Hall) recalled that one of the photographs
taken by the criminalist showed a measure meter on the hood of a
black and white vehicle.
Hall stated at no time between February 1987 to February 1989, or
at any other time did he ever hear Tortorici say to Ramirez "Hey
Mexican, this conversation is for White guys. No one is speaking
to you. You speak when you're spoke to Mexican." He never heard
Tortorici refer to Ramirez as a "Mexican" or a "greaser" or a
"greaseball" when Ramirez had a phone call. He never heard
Tortorici say to Ramirez "I don't like you Mexican, I never did
and I never will." He was not aware of any problems regarding
the working relationship between Ramirez and Tortorici.
He (Hall) denied ever hearing Michelena ask Tortorici in March
1989, or at any other time, "Are you going to treat minorities
better now that you made Detective III?" He denied that he heard
Tortorici respond, "No, you are still a fucking Mexican." He
never heard Tortorici refer to any Hispanic personnel in the
O.I.S. Office as "fucking Mexicans."
Hall stated he recalled attending a Homicide Conference sometime
in March 1989. While in the O.I.S. Office there had been some
general conversation regarding the conference. He denied that he
Object Description
| Title | Correspondence: complaints against LAPD (1 of 2), [after 1989-09] |
| Description | Operations Headquarters Bureau, Los Angeles Police Department (Stephen C. Coker and Marty Cotwright), memorandum, to Detective Services Group, Los Angeles Police Department (J. Bova), re I.A. no. 86-600: Department complaint alleging unbecoming conduct against Detective III Elmer Pellegrino (serial no. 12470), Detective III Wallace Montgomery (serial no. 16136), Detective III Carlos Ramirez (serial no. 13427), Lieutenant II Charles Massey (serial no. 11880), and an unknown officder, Robbery Homicide Division (RHD); Department complaint alleging unbecoming conduct and neglect of duty against Lieutenant II William Hall (serial no. 13726, RHD. PART OF A SERIES: Materials in the series fall into one of several categories related to the Independent Commission's work product: (1) Commission meeting materials, which include meeting agendas, work plans, memoranda, and articles about police misconduct that were circulated and reviewed during the Commission's internal meetings; (2) public correspondence, which includes citizen complaints against the LAPD in the form of written testimony, articles, and an audio cassette tape, as well as letters drafted by citizens in support of the LAPD; (3) summaries of interviews held with LAPD officers regarding Departmental procedures and relations; (4) public meeting materials, which include transcripts, supplementary documents, and witness statements that were reviewed at the Commission's public meetings; (5) press releases related to the formation and work product of the Commission; and (6) miscellaneous materials reviewed by the Commission during its study, including LAPD personnel and training manuals, a memorandum of understanding, and messages from the LAPD's Mobile Digital Terminal (MDT) system. |
| Coverage date | 1981-03/1989-08-16 |
| Creator |
Coker, C. Cotwright, Marty Los Angeles Police Department. Operations Headquarters Bureau |
| Contributor |
Bova, J., recipient Los Angeles Police Department. Detective Services Group, recipient |
| Publisher (of the digital version) | University of Southern California |
| Date created | [after 1989-09] |
| Type | texts |
| Format | 241 p. |
| Format (aat) | memorandums |
| Format (imt) | application/pdf |
| Language | English |
| Contributing entity | University of Southern California |
| Part of collection | Independent Commission on the Los Angeles Police Department, 1991 |
| Series | Independent Commission File List |
| File | Complaints, suggestions, and support |
| Box and folder | box 23, folder 5 |
| Provenance | The collection was given to the University of Southern California on July 31, 1991. |
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| Physical access | Contact: Special Collections, Doheny Memorial Library, Libraries, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189; specol@dots.usc.edu |
| Repository name | USC Libraries Special Collections |
| Repository address | Doheny Memorial Library, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189 |
| Repository email | specol@dots.usc.edu |
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| Title | Correspondence: complaints against LAPD (1 of 2), [after 1989-09], p. 111 |
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| Physical access | Contact: Special Collections, Doheny Memorial Library, Libraries, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189; specol@dots.usc.edu |
| Full text | PERSONNEL COMPLAINT, I.A. No. 86-600 Page 114 Lieutenant Hall said that at no time during January 1989, or at any other time did he hear Tortorici say to Ramirez "Hey greaser, there's only one good thing about the schedule. I don't have any weekends assigned with you. That's good because I don't have to work with you, greaseball." He said he has never referred to Ramirez nor has anyone else in the office referred to him as a "greaser" or "greaseball." He has never heard Pellegrino refer to Hearing Reporter Diethrich as a "dumb Mexican broad." Hall denied ever hearing Pellegrino make the statement "if it was up to me I would fire the bitch" while referring to Diethrich. Hall stated that on or about February 7, 1989, while at the scene of an O.I.S. at 10325 Oso Avenue in Devonshire Area, he recalled seeing a measure meter on the hood of a black and white police vehicle. Ramirez left to go conduct interviews of firefighters who had been at the scene and that a couple of days later Ramirez asked him if he had seen his measure meter. He told Ramirez to check with his partners. Ramirez said he had already checked with his partners and they had said that he (Hall) had the meter. He told Ramirez to phone Devonshire Division to ascertain if any patrol officers may have had the measure meter. After that he heard nothing else regarding the measure meter, and.assumed it had turned up. He was not aware that Ramirez had ordered another one until he read about it in Ramirez' grievance supplemental. On two occasions Ramirez asked to check the trunk of his (Hall) vehicle and in fact did check the trunk. Ramirez also check the trunks of the vehicles that Pellegrino and Greg Hall were driving at the time. He (Hall) recalled that one of the photographs taken by the criminalist showed a measure meter on the hood of a black and white vehicle. Hall stated at no time between February 1987 to February 1989, or at any other time did he ever hear Tortorici say to Ramirez "Hey Mexican, this conversation is for White guys. No one is speaking to you. You speak when you're spoke to Mexican." He never heard Tortorici refer to Ramirez as a "Mexican" or a "greaser" or a "greaseball" when Ramirez had a phone call. He never heard Tortorici say to Ramirez "I don't like you Mexican, I never did and I never will." He was not aware of any problems regarding the working relationship between Ramirez and Tortorici. He (Hall) denied ever hearing Michelena ask Tortorici in March 1989, or at any other time, "Are you going to treat minorities better now that you made Detective III?" He denied that he heard Tortorici respond, "No, you are still a fucking Mexican." He never heard Tortorici refer to any Hispanic personnel in the O.I.S. Office as "fucking Mexicans." Hall stated he recalled attending a Homicide Conference sometime in March 1989. While in the O.I.S. Office there had been some general conversation regarding the conference. He denied that he |
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