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PERSONNEL COMPLAINT, I.A. No. 86-600
Page 2 7
fist. Ramirez wasstill on his back when he struck
Pellegrino. Pellegrino appeared surprised by the blow and
continued stepping back about four or five feet. He
(Tyndall) then walked over to Pellegrino's location and
Nuckles went to Ramirez who then got up. The entire
incident lasted about fifteen seconds. He observed no
evidence of injury to either Ramirez or Pellegrino. After. .
they separated, Ramirez and Pellegrino returned to their
desk and sat across from each other. A few minutes later,
Ramirez left the office for home.
Tyndall stated he did not recall hearing Pellegrino say that
he had to straighten out his Mexican partner. He did not
recall Pellegrino stating, "I'll beat the shit out of you,
you little fucking Mexican. I'll kill you." If Pellegrino
had made such a statement, he (Tyndall) would have recalled
it.
Detective Hall stated that while seated at his desk, he
looked up and saw Ramirez, who was about five to six feet to
his left, standing over Pellegrino who was seated at his
desk, and that words were being exchanged. He could not
recall any specific conversation but the tone was such that
he thought they were joking. He (Hall) then went back to
what he had been doing. The conversation then got louder
and that when he looked up again, he observed that
Pellegrino and Ramirez were grabbing and pulling at each
other's clothing. He could not recall who the aggressor was
at that point nor could he recall where each had his hands
on the other. Pellegrino then lifted Ramirez up off the
floor and placed him down on his (Ramirez) back on an
adjoining table. He did not recall how Pellegrino had put
Ramirez on the table, except that it was in one continuous
motion, and that it was not done in a forceful manner, nor
was it a "body slam." Hall further stated that he did not
recall hearing Ramirez cry out in pain nor could he recall
if there were any objects on the table.
As soon as Pellegrino placed Ramirez on the table,
Pellegrino backed away and Ramirez got up off the table. At
that point, he thought that both Pellegrino and Ramirez had
become angry with each other, because their tone of voice
and their actions were no longer consistent with kidding
around. However, he did not recall any specific words being
exchanged between the two. He denied ever seeing Pellegrino
or Ramirez attempt to strike one another. At no time during
the incident did he recall hearing Pellegrino refer to
Ramirez as his "Mexican partner" or hear him say that he was
going to straighten Ramirez out. He also denied ever
hearing Pellegrino say to Ramirez,"I'11 beat the shit out of
you you little fucking Mexican. I'll kill you."
Object Description
| Title | Correspondence: complaints against LAPD (1 of 2), [after 1989-09] |
| Description | Operations Headquarters Bureau, Los Angeles Police Department (Stephen C. Coker and Marty Cotwright), memorandum, to Detective Services Group, Los Angeles Police Department (J. Bova), re I.A. no. 86-600: Department complaint alleging unbecoming conduct against Detective III Elmer Pellegrino (serial no. 12470), Detective III Wallace Montgomery (serial no. 16136), Detective III Carlos Ramirez (serial no. 13427), Lieutenant II Charles Massey (serial no. 11880), and an unknown officder, Robbery Homicide Division (RHD); Department complaint alleging unbecoming conduct and neglect of duty against Lieutenant II William Hall (serial no. 13726, RHD. PART OF A SERIES: Materials in the series fall into one of several categories related to the Independent Commission's work product: (1) Commission meeting materials, which include meeting agendas, work plans, memoranda, and articles about police misconduct that were circulated and reviewed during the Commission's internal meetings; (2) public correspondence, which includes citizen complaints against the LAPD in the form of written testimony, articles, and an audio cassette tape, as well as letters drafted by citizens in support of the LAPD; (3) summaries of interviews held with LAPD officers regarding Departmental procedures and relations; (4) public meeting materials, which include transcripts, supplementary documents, and witness statements that were reviewed at the Commission's public meetings; (5) press releases related to the formation and work product of the Commission; and (6) miscellaneous materials reviewed by the Commission during its study, including LAPD personnel and training manuals, a memorandum of understanding, and messages from the LAPD's Mobile Digital Terminal (MDT) system. |
| Coverage date | 1981-03/1989-08-16 |
| Creator |
Coker, C. Cotwright, Marty Los Angeles Police Department. Operations Headquarters Bureau |
| Contributor |
Bova, J., recipient Los Angeles Police Department. Detective Services Group, recipient |
| Publisher (of the digital version) | University of Southern California |
| Date created | [after 1989-09] |
| Type | texts |
| Format | 241 p. |
| Format (aat) | memorandums |
| Format (imt) | application/pdf |
| Language | English |
| Contributing entity | University of Southern California |
| Part of collection | Independent Commission on the Los Angeles Police Department, 1991 |
| Series | Independent Commission File List |
| File | Complaints, suggestions, and support |
| Box and folder | box 23, folder 5 |
| Provenance | The collection was given to the University of Southern California on July 31, 1991. |
| Rights | This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ All requests for permission to publish or quote from manuscripts must be submitted in writing to the Manuscripts Librarian. Permission for publication is given on behalf of Special Collections as the owner of the physical items and is not intended to include or imply permission of the copyright holder, which must also be obtained. |
| Physical access | Contact: Special Collections, Doheny Memorial Library, Libraries, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189; specol@dots.usc.edu |
| Repository name | USC Libraries Special Collections |
| Repository address | Doheny Memorial Library, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189 |
| Repository email | specol@dots.usc.edu |
| Filename | indep-box23-05 |
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| Title | Correspondence: complaints against LAPD (1 of 2), [after 1989-09], p. 28 |
| Format (imt) | image/tiff |
| Physical access | Contact: Special Collections, Doheny Memorial Library, Libraries, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189; specol@dots.usc.edu |
| Full text | PERSONNEL COMPLAINT, I.A. No. 86-600 Page 2 7 fist. Ramirez wasstill on his back when he struck Pellegrino. Pellegrino appeared surprised by the blow and continued stepping back about four or five feet. He (Tyndall) then walked over to Pellegrino's location and Nuckles went to Ramirez who then got up. The entire incident lasted about fifteen seconds. He observed no evidence of injury to either Ramirez or Pellegrino. After. . they separated, Ramirez and Pellegrino returned to their desk and sat across from each other. A few minutes later, Ramirez left the office for home. Tyndall stated he did not recall hearing Pellegrino say that he had to straighten out his Mexican partner. He did not recall Pellegrino stating, "I'll beat the shit out of you, you little fucking Mexican. I'll kill you." If Pellegrino had made such a statement, he (Tyndall) would have recalled it. Detective Hall stated that while seated at his desk, he looked up and saw Ramirez, who was about five to six feet to his left, standing over Pellegrino who was seated at his desk, and that words were being exchanged. He could not recall any specific conversation but the tone was such that he thought they were joking. He (Hall) then went back to what he had been doing. The conversation then got louder and that when he looked up again, he observed that Pellegrino and Ramirez were grabbing and pulling at each other's clothing. He could not recall who the aggressor was at that point nor could he recall where each had his hands on the other. Pellegrino then lifted Ramirez up off the floor and placed him down on his (Ramirez) back on an adjoining table. He did not recall how Pellegrino had put Ramirez on the table, except that it was in one continuous motion, and that it was not done in a forceful manner, nor was it a "body slam." Hall further stated that he did not recall hearing Ramirez cry out in pain nor could he recall if there were any objects on the table. As soon as Pellegrino placed Ramirez on the table, Pellegrino backed away and Ramirez got up off the table. At that point, he thought that both Pellegrino and Ramirez had become angry with each other, because their tone of voice and their actions were no longer consistent with kidding around. However, he did not recall any specific words being exchanged between the two. He denied ever seeing Pellegrino or Ramirez attempt to strike one another. At no time during the incident did he recall hearing Pellegrino refer to Ramirez as his "Mexican partner" or hear him say that he was going to straighten Ramirez out. He also denied ever hearing Pellegrino say to Ramirez,"I'11 beat the shit out of you you little fucking Mexican. I'll kill you." |
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