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SPEAKER: One other thing that the commission may want to
aware of, is the law which prohibits not sustained
charges going into the personnel file. That's an
area we ought to Will you explain
that?
SPEAKER: Okay, if an officer is up for promotion, the fact
that he may have ten unsustained complaints
against him is not a factor that can be considered
because the complaint was not sustained. And if
he is being subject to discipline, in many cases,
ah that, that the same thing, it can't be part of
his personnel jacket because the uh cases were not
sustained. I think there's some room there. I
know that we said that yesterday, but we were
reminded of another situation involving, I think
the police officer we talked about, a motorcycle
officer who had a number of unsustained complaints
against him, because it was always one-on-one. He
was one of these "radar" cops and he was always
pulling over people and saying they were caught on
radar. So there were a number of people who
complained about this one particular officer. And
I think in that instance, one of the things that
the department wanted to do was take him off the
motorcycle and assign him to a police car. And I
think we were able to use the unsustained
complaints in that situation, but its very limited
when we can do that.
SPEAKER: Is that a state law or is that some local
personnel rule.
SPEAKER: Its a combination of state law and the statues
that pertain to uses of public records. And the
um, its been a longstanding practice within the
department, so it's hard to change.
SPEAKER: Umm.. Let me ask you. Suppose a new Chief of
Police said, I'd like to have, as part of the
personnel jackets of all indications of complaints
against officers, sustained, unsustained,
unfounded. Uh could Chief of Police do that?
SPEAKER
I believe that it would take some, number one, in
LAPD it would take some negotiations with the
police union in order to change that practice
because it currently exists. Which is a major
hurdle in changing anything in the police
department. There maybe room, currently, to do
that.
34
06/08/91
Object Description
| Title | Independent Commission, hearing transcript, 1991-06-06 |
| Description | Independent Commission on the Los Angeles Police Department transcript of hearing in which those interviewed were Tom Bradley, Michael J. Bostic, Ernest Curtsinger, James Kenneth Hahn and John Sherrell, 1991 June 6. PART OF: Commission meetings, 1991 June 6. PART OF A SERIES: Materials in the series fall into one of several categories related to the Independent Commission's work product: (1) Commission meeting materials, which include meeting agendas, work plans, memoranda, and articles about police misconduct that were circulated and reviewed during the Commission's internal meetings; (2) public correspondence, which includes citizen complaints against the LAPD in the form of written testimony, articles, and an audio cassette tape, as well as letters drafted by citizens in support of the LAPD; (3) summaries of interviews held with LAPD officers regarding Departmental procedures and relations; (4) public meeting materials, which include transcripts, supplementary documents, and witness statements that were reviewed at the Commission's public meetings; (5) press releases related to the formation and work product of the Commission; and (6) miscellaneous materials reviewed by the Commission during its study, including LAPD personnel and training manuals, a memorandum of understanding, and messages from the LAPD's Mobile Digital Terminal (MDT) system. |
| Subject (personal name) | Bradley, Tom; Bostic, Michael J.; Curtsinger, Ernest; Hahn, James Kenneth, 1950- ; Sherrell, John |
| Creator |
Kathy, interviewer Anderson, Roy, interviewer Arguelles, John, interviewer Christopher, Warren, interviewer Estrada, Leo F., interviewer Getto, Ernie, interviewer Kantor, Mickey, interviewer Mosk, Richard M., interviewer Ordin, Andrea Sheridan, interviewer Reiner, Mr., interviewer Slaughter, John Brooks, interviewer Tranquada, Robert E., interviewer |
| Contributor |
Bradley, Tom, interviewee Bostic, Michael J., interviewee Curtsinger, Ernest, interviewee Hahn, James Kenneth, 1950- , interviewee Sherrell, John, interviewee |
| Publisher (of the digital version) | University of Southern California |
| Date created | 1991-06-05 |
| Type | texts |
| Format | 154 p. |
| Format (aat) | hearings (event) |
| Format (imt) | application/pdf |
| Language | English |
| Contributing entity | University of Southern California |
| Part of collection | Independent Commission on the Los Angeles Police Department, 1991 |
| Series | Independent Commission file list |
| File | Commission meetings |
| Box and folder | box 22, folder 13, item 5 |
| Provenance | The collection was given to the University of Southern California on July 31, 1991. |
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| Title | Independent Commission, hearing transcript, 1991-06-06, p. 153 |
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| Full text | SPEAKER: One other thing that the commission may want to aware of, is the law which prohibits not sustained charges going into the personnel file. That's an area we ought to Will you explain that? SPEAKER: Okay, if an officer is up for promotion, the fact that he may have ten unsustained complaints against him is not a factor that can be considered because the complaint was not sustained. And if he is being subject to discipline, in many cases, ah that, that the same thing, it can't be part of his personnel jacket because the uh cases were not sustained. I think there's some room there. I know that we said that yesterday, but we were reminded of another situation involving, I think the police officer we talked about, a motorcycle officer who had a number of unsustained complaints against him, because it was always one-on-one. He was one of these "radar" cops and he was always pulling over people and saying they were caught on radar. So there were a number of people who complained about this one particular officer. And I think in that instance, one of the things that the department wanted to do was take him off the motorcycle and assign him to a police car. And I think we were able to use the unsustained complaints in that situation, but its very limited when we can do that. SPEAKER: Is that a state law or is that some local personnel rule. SPEAKER: Its a combination of state law and the statues that pertain to uses of public records. And the um, its been a longstanding practice within the department, so it's hard to change. SPEAKER: Umm.. Let me ask you. Suppose a new Chief of Police said, I'd like to have, as part of the personnel jackets of all indications of complaints against officers, sustained, unsustained, unfounded. Uh could Chief of Police do that? SPEAKER I believe that it would take some, number one, in LAPD it would take some negotiations with the police union in order to change that practice because it currently exists. Which is a major hurdle in changing anything in the police department. There maybe room, currently, to do that. 34 06/08/91 |
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