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trojan Volume XCIII, Number 45 University of Southern California Thursday, March 17, 1983 Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley calmly sits and listens to speakers as the' roast him at the Ides of March dinner. Tom Bradley gets 'roasted' during Ides of March dinner By Douglas Lytle Staff Writer They facetiously called him "Mr. Excitement" and said he has the ability to raise a room to the point of apathy. They spoke bluntly about his failed attempt to become governor of the state. But Tom Bradley took it all in stride. The calling had come for the Los Angeles mayor to be "roasted." Newscaster John Schubeck, who leveled the "Mr. Excitement" crack, was the first of eight speakers at Tuesday night's Ides of March dinner and roast, sponsored by the university's school of public administration. Schubeck's gibes were relatively tame in comparison to other comments supplied by "friends" of the mayor at the roast, which was attended by over 350. The S150-a-plate affair at the Beverlv-Wilshire hotel was an effort by the school of public administration to raise the level of financial support available to students aspiring for careers in public service. Actor Harvey Korman, comic Flip Wilson, exfootball star Willie Davis, and John Argue, chairman of the Southern California Olympic Committee, were only several of the local conspirators gathered to take pot-shots at the mayor who last November lost his bid for the governor's office in a close election with George Deukmejian. "This is actually his (Bradley) second roast of the year," Argue said. "The first came last November when he lost the election to the Republicans." During the 90-minute roast, Bradley sat laughing heartily at many of the comments directed at him and the world of politics. Schubeck noted that "the mayor has a great ability to raise a room to the point of apathy," adding that the mayor is a very generous person because he "helped the blacks in Watts, helped hispanics in Los Angeles, and he helped the Armenian's in Sacramento." Flip W’ilson, the master of ceremonies, said that he was going to make his remarks brief because "Bradley had already lost the election." He then went on to suggest that Bradley had gotten off easily in the November campaign, because "the screwing you got from the Republicans wasn't nearly as bad as the screwing the Republicans got from the conservatives." City Councilman Gilbert Lindsay thinks of Bradley as always being ahead of him during all the years that he has known the mayor and said that he always waited for the day that he could get ahead of Bradley, and possibly become mayor (Continued on page 3) Mayor Bradley laughs as roasters make fun of him. o ae the Speakers try to answer questions on disarmament By Steve DeSalvo Assistant City Editor "To arm or disarm?" That fundamental question was posed by Nicholas Seidita, a chief proponent of a bilateral nuclear freeze, at a discussion Wednesday in Waite Phillips Hall, which focused on the popular movement to apply a moratorium on the production of nuclear weapons. Six other speakers—four university professors, a doctoral candidate and a Catholic nun — joined Seidita in asking whether disarmament proposals are realistic. All of them came up with different answers. "There is a struggle between two faiths," Seidita said. "One faith is interested in weapon and technological superiority. Its followers believe we can win a nuclear war. They believe that if we don't maintain nuclear superiority, the Soviets will pounce on us. "The other faith believes that all the technological advantage of weapons has done is encourage reciprocal action on the other side . . . encourage an arms race. "I am of this latter faith, a faith in the capability of humans to solve conflict through non-violence," he said. "The effectiveness of nonviolence has not been demonstrated internationally, but it is done by all of us in our public and private lives. If we can't use non-violence internationally, by halting the escalation of the arms race, then we've had it — we're doomed." However, Robin Ranger, a professor of international relations and strategic studies, attacked what he called "the emotional, polemical attitude of freeze proponents — people who aren’t qualified to speak about arms control. "The supporters of the freeze are well-intentioned, but there's only one problem with the freeze. It won't work," said Ranger, author of the book Arms and Politics, 1958-1978. "Contrary to claims made by its supporters, the freeze isn't verifiable. No competent authority ever said it was. "But let's pretend for a moment the freeze was verifiable. If we found out that the Soviets were violating the treaty — and that would be difficult — they would simply deny it, and the United States could do nothing, just as it could do nothing when it found that the Soviets were using biological and chemical warfare in Afghanistan," he said. More impoitantlv, even if the Soviets di freeze, they wo ATHER ALI/DAILY TROJAN Speakers taking part in a moritorium Wednesday focused on the question of whether nuclear disarmament proposals are realistic. d observe the uld have a tre- mendous strategic advantage over the United States. The freeze would lejave the United States weaker, flowing the Soviet Union to do whatever it wanted in Genfnany, Afghanistan and the Middle East." But Seidita challenged the notion that th»t Soviet Union enjoys a strategic advantage over the United States, saying that this country's sea-based missiles — part jof the land-air-sea "triad" —I are so overwhelming that k Soviet' advantage would be impossible. "One or two of our submarines has the ability to destroy every large- and medium-sized city in the Soviet Union. We have 30 of these subs," he explained. Gunnar Nielsson, a professor of international relations, agreed with Seidita. "The Soviet Union would be taking an enormous risk if thev took advantage of a so-called 'window of vulnerability,' " Nielsson said. "The Soviets have an advantage in land-based missiles, but not sea-based ones." Carl Boggs, a visiting professor of political sdence, said the United States was primarily responsible for the arms race. "The United States always has been on the forefront of the proliferation of nuclear weapons," Boggs said. "We were the first ones to use an atomic bomb, we were the first ones to put missiles on subs, and we were first in produdng multiple warheads. The USSR, forced into a position of reactioning, always repeated these developments three or four years later." Boggs added: "Soviet leaders have repeated endlessly that they think nuclear war is unthinkable and unwinnable. I have yet to hear similar statements from our leaders." Jack Crouch, a doctoral candidate of international relations, expressed an anti-freeze sentiment similar to that of Ranger. He called Jonathan Shell's The Fate of the Earth — a book popular among freeze supporters — a "piece of crap." (Continued on page 2} U.S. rule restricting Libyans said not to affect university By Laura Castaneda Assistant City Editor A new regulation barring all Libyan students from taking aviation and nuclear science courses in the United States will not affect the 35 Libyans studying at thtf university, the office of international students; and scholars reported. The State Department's ruling, which went into effect Friday, if designed to protect the security of the United States, said Duane Austin, a spokesman for :he U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service. The dedsion is the latest move by the Reagan administration to thwart the efforts of Libyan leader Moammar Khadafi, whom the president has accused of supporting terrorist movements. Austin said there has been no immediate reactions from Lib\|an students or university' officials to the regulation and that no students or schools have been officially notified of the new rule. He said that the regulation may result in the deportation of students, and the addition of new prohibitions regarding changes of status and visas for student^. Leslie Belay, program coordinator and foreign student adviser for the office of international students and scholars, agreed that students wishing to enter the country' or to renew their visas may have some problems. She added, however, that current students will probably not be affected because, even though 11 , Libyans are studying electrical engineering at the university, their majors are not directly related to aviation or nuclear sdence. Belay said that schools, in most cases, will not have to enforce the new regulations because the Immigration and Naturalization Service can easily go through a student's documents itself. Belay said the chances of the government doing this are slim. "I don’t think the government will actively seek out these students," she said. "I think it's safe to say that none of our students will be affected." Belay said she resents the government's interference with academics and that its actions can only cause more harm than good. "International educational exchange should not be jeopardized for short term political goals," she said. "The government should not use students as pawns."
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Full text | trojan Volume XCIII, Number 45 University of Southern California Thursday, March 17, 1983 Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley calmly sits and listens to speakers as the' roast him at the Ides of March dinner. Tom Bradley gets 'roasted' during Ides of March dinner By Douglas Lytle Staff Writer They facetiously called him "Mr. Excitement" and said he has the ability to raise a room to the point of apathy. They spoke bluntly about his failed attempt to become governor of the state. But Tom Bradley took it all in stride. The calling had come for the Los Angeles mayor to be "roasted." Newscaster John Schubeck, who leveled the "Mr. Excitement" crack, was the first of eight speakers at Tuesday night's Ides of March dinner and roast, sponsored by the university's school of public administration. Schubeck's gibes were relatively tame in comparison to other comments supplied by "friends" of the mayor at the roast, which was attended by over 350. The S150-a-plate affair at the Beverlv-Wilshire hotel was an effort by the school of public administration to raise the level of financial support available to students aspiring for careers in public service. Actor Harvey Korman, comic Flip Wilson, exfootball star Willie Davis, and John Argue, chairman of the Southern California Olympic Committee, were only several of the local conspirators gathered to take pot-shots at the mayor who last November lost his bid for the governor's office in a close election with George Deukmejian. "This is actually his (Bradley) second roast of the year," Argue said. "The first came last November when he lost the election to the Republicans." During the 90-minute roast, Bradley sat laughing heartily at many of the comments directed at him and the world of politics. Schubeck noted that "the mayor has a great ability to raise a room to the point of apathy," adding that the mayor is a very generous person because he "helped the blacks in Watts, helped hispanics in Los Angeles, and he helped the Armenian's in Sacramento." Flip W’ilson, the master of ceremonies, said that he was going to make his remarks brief because "Bradley had already lost the election." He then went on to suggest that Bradley had gotten off easily in the November campaign, because "the screwing you got from the Republicans wasn't nearly as bad as the screwing the Republicans got from the conservatives." City Councilman Gilbert Lindsay thinks of Bradley as always being ahead of him during all the years that he has known the mayor and said that he always waited for the day that he could get ahead of Bradley, and possibly become mayor (Continued on page 3) Mayor Bradley laughs as roasters make fun of him. o ae the Speakers try to answer questions on disarmament By Steve DeSalvo Assistant City Editor "To arm or disarm?" That fundamental question was posed by Nicholas Seidita, a chief proponent of a bilateral nuclear freeze, at a discussion Wednesday in Waite Phillips Hall, which focused on the popular movement to apply a moratorium on the production of nuclear weapons. Six other speakers—four university professors, a doctoral candidate and a Catholic nun — joined Seidita in asking whether disarmament proposals are realistic. All of them came up with different answers. "There is a struggle between two faiths," Seidita said. "One faith is interested in weapon and technological superiority. Its followers believe we can win a nuclear war. They believe that if we don't maintain nuclear superiority, the Soviets will pounce on us. "The other faith believes that all the technological advantage of weapons has done is encourage reciprocal action on the other side . . . encourage an arms race. "I am of this latter faith, a faith in the capability of humans to solve conflict through non-violence," he said. "The effectiveness of nonviolence has not been demonstrated internationally, but it is done by all of us in our public and private lives. If we can't use non-violence internationally, by halting the escalation of the arms race, then we've had it — we're doomed." However, Robin Ranger, a professor of international relations and strategic studies, attacked what he called "the emotional, polemical attitude of freeze proponents — people who aren’t qualified to speak about arms control. "The supporters of the freeze are well-intentioned, but there's only one problem with the freeze. It won't work," said Ranger, author of the book Arms and Politics, 1958-1978. "Contrary to claims made by its supporters, the freeze isn't verifiable. No competent authority ever said it was. "But let's pretend for a moment the freeze was verifiable. If we found out that the Soviets were violating the treaty — and that would be difficult — they would simply deny it, and the United States could do nothing, just as it could do nothing when it found that the Soviets were using biological and chemical warfare in Afghanistan," he said. More impoitantlv, even if the Soviets di freeze, they wo ATHER ALI/DAILY TROJAN Speakers taking part in a moritorium Wednesday focused on the question of whether nuclear disarmament proposals are realistic. d observe the uld have a tre- mendous strategic advantage over the United States. The freeze would lejave the United States weaker, flowing the Soviet Union to do whatever it wanted in Genfnany, Afghanistan and the Middle East." But Seidita challenged the notion that th»t Soviet Union enjoys a strategic advantage over the United States, saying that this country's sea-based missiles — part jof the land-air-sea "triad" —I are so overwhelming that k Soviet' advantage would be impossible. "One or two of our submarines has the ability to destroy every large- and medium-sized city in the Soviet Union. We have 30 of these subs," he explained. Gunnar Nielsson, a professor of international relations, agreed with Seidita. "The Soviet Union would be taking an enormous risk if thev took advantage of a so-called 'window of vulnerability,' " Nielsson said. "The Soviets have an advantage in land-based missiles, but not sea-based ones." Carl Boggs, a visiting professor of political sdence, said the United States was primarily responsible for the arms race. "The United States always has been on the forefront of the proliferation of nuclear weapons," Boggs said. "We were the first ones to use an atomic bomb, we were the first ones to put missiles on subs, and we were first in produdng multiple warheads. The USSR, forced into a position of reactioning, always repeated these developments three or four years later." Boggs added: "Soviet leaders have repeated endlessly that they think nuclear war is unthinkable and unwinnable. I have yet to hear similar statements from our leaders." Jack Crouch, a doctoral candidate of international relations, expressed an anti-freeze sentiment similar to that of Ranger. He called Jonathan Shell's The Fate of the Earth — a book popular among freeze supporters — a "piece of crap." (Continued on page 2} U.S. rule restricting Libyans said not to affect university By Laura Castaneda Assistant City Editor A new regulation barring all Libyan students from taking aviation and nuclear science courses in the United States will not affect the 35 Libyans studying at thtf university, the office of international students; and scholars reported. The State Department's ruling, which went into effect Friday, if designed to protect the security of the United States, said Duane Austin, a spokesman for :he U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service. The dedsion is the latest move by the Reagan administration to thwart the efforts of Libyan leader Moammar Khadafi, whom the president has accused of supporting terrorist movements. Austin said there has been no immediate reactions from Lib\|an students or university' officials to the regulation and that no students or schools have been officially notified of the new rule. He said that the regulation may result in the deportation of students, and the addition of new prohibitions regarding changes of status and visas for student^. Leslie Belay, program coordinator and foreign student adviser for the office of international students and scholars, agreed that students wishing to enter the country' or to renew their visas may have some problems. She added, however, that current students will probably not be affected because, even though 11 , Libyans are studying electrical engineering at the university, their majors are not directly related to aviation or nuclear sdence. Belay said that schools, in most cases, will not have to enforce the new regulations because the Immigration and Naturalization Service can easily go through a student's documents itself. Belay said the chances of the government doing this are slim. "I don’t think the government will actively seek out these students," she said. "I think it's safe to say that none of our students will be affected." Belay said she resents the government's interference with academics and that its actions can only cause more harm than good. "International educational exchange should not be jeopardized for short term political goals," she said. "The government should not use students as pawns." |
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